66Pack- Журнал, 14 июл 23

It’s really nothing new tho. Peds, some pay the price early, some late and some never. It’s the risk they take. But dude had 9million followers and was living off of sponsorship money and traveling the world... in a way you can say it suck to die young but he lived faster than most, would it be better to live til 80 on a 9-5 job being a nobody? 

Lol I’m describing most most hebroz... including myself. Only a low % of people would be able to take peds and can have the lifestyle he did. What’s worse is the ones doing peds and still working a 9-5 job n still a nobody. Now there’s no trade off to the risk of dying young 

Btw Jeff cavalier uses fake weights 

What are PEDS?  

Penis enlargement disease syndrome  

super your on a roll 

That’s not what I heard 🙄 

Jeff cavalier drives me nuts  

Wow super. Just. Wow. Too much ice cream for breakfast? 

😳 

It’s the truth, look up Jeff cavelier fake weights n you’ll see 

I will see penis enlargement disease syndrome??????? What?? Give me some rocky road please 

Sounds like a personal problem  

Snicker 

This didn’t go in the direction I thought it might but that’s the way it goes with social media. I wonder if Joes wife and Joe himself would agree that 10-15 years together in the big bucks sponsorships, traveling the world, 9 M followers on social Sesame Street is better OR 50-60 years of perhaps more influential position in the industry and a longer life with your best friend. I betting they would choose the later….✌️out.  

Well look 66 I like debates and offering different points of views. So this discussion doesn’t take any emotional toll on me at all. But if it does for you then we can stop but if you ask me. Him and his wife already made that choice? He wasn’t oblivious to the risk factors and his wife wasn’t oblivious to his ped usage. And it isn’t a black n white choice. Btw I’m against ped use, unless you could make a living off of it. But anyway, who’s to say he’d be just as happy? What other talent does he possess? He could have had a mediocre physique and a minimum pay job and be a disgruntled person. Would his wife still be his wife? Having financial freedom and fame makes a person much happier to enjoy life. That’s the other point of view I was putting out there. Would he even be the same person had he tried n failed to be an influencer and be forced to work a minimum paying job. That takes a toll on a person 

Super 👏  

Yeah I don’t have dog in this fight so I’ll just close with this. There are many socially acceptable addictions these days. Too often we find them or they find us in that place in our minds that tell us we aren’t perfect or good enough. Few can raise a person to stardom as PEDs did for Joe but all eventually come with a price and I hate to see people die so young.  

Agreed. That’s why I get conflicted sometimes when I’m supporting someone on the juice. Cuz it drives them also... but are they driven to work harder or juice more or both. It’s like I’m supporting them harming themselves. And in this day n age steroid has become more common and accepted more than ever.  

IDK, I am with Super with quality vs. quantity. However, 30 years is too young. He made the young list along with Bostin and Dallas. It's a shame. BTW, my oldest patient on TRT was 84. He was on it for years and had improved quality and monitored labs regularly. Clearly, Jo was on more than TRT, and he probably wasn't monitoring his BP and labs since he was young and thought he was invincible. It's a dangerous game.