jaimejay- Журнал, 20 мар 20

Oh dear. Maybe her mom will tell her not to visit? 

around here people say if you love the older folks stay away to keep them alive..  

I see where your wife is coming from♥️ It must feel like torture to her, however, no. She needs to stay 🏡. People are spreading this without symptoms. ♥️♥️♥️🙏🙏🙏💜💚 

That's what I dont get. I am doing this to show her what everyone thinks because for some odd reason, she is being stubborn and putting my son with a heart problem at risk also. Per the President of the United States, the WHO, and the CDC, I have advised her against visiting her Mom, but she insists on traveling 300 miles to put me and everyone at risk. I will not go and it just really breaks my heart and vexes my mind and puts me in a position where I air my life out just to show her the what she is doing.  

I know I wont have their blood on my hands.  

She should be careful. I do not know where you are. I am in Canada and here many of our older people travel south to the US in the winter (we call them snow birds). And now that they are coming back we see that many of our new cases of covid 19 are brought in by them. So just casual travel with air or with car can cause you to come in contact with the virus. Hope you guys can resolve it 

It's not happening Liv. She is adamant. I just have to put there lives in God's hands and let them go like Job when his family died of leprosy and ailments. Sad truth.  

NO! NO! NO! Please I pray for her to listen to you, to us, to the world,to everyone, DON'T travel stay home. You're in our prayers to jaimejay, stay safe. 

Unless she is a legal guardian for your son, assuming he is a minor, she can't take him without your consent in writing and if things are getting as strange as I'm hearing, she may be stopped at various state lines prior to entering. Let her decide what she wants to do with her mother, but keep your kid safe. If he's an adult, reason with him to stay. If he's a minor and needs care on this trip, she still can't authorize care. Some pretty serious stuff to consider. Good luck. You can also break the car, just saying. 

Same as what Katsolo said... it is unclear to me since you refer to him as "your" son and not hers. That makes a big difference. But, I must add I have always believed in quality of life over quantity of life - so if her mother is at an end stage of life I might support her in that decision but without your son traveling with her. Otherwise, best to stay distant and try figure out some web chat and skype options. Best to you Jamiejay 

Has your state enacted shelter-in-place? If so, she is not allowed to travel, let alone take a minor 300 miles from home. Is she a legal guardian or mother of your son? Contact local officials for specific assistance. 

I'm the biological father and she is the biological mother and the police said that this is a civil matter. I guess life and death doesnt mean shit to anyone. But In sure domestic violence, they will throw me in jail so I'm going to leave it to God like Job did and let it beeee!!!! 

sounds like you need a third party friend to help you through this. Not to try to become the winning side but to work it out 

Sounds like there’s more going on below the surface. Good luck. 

So you can’t tell her what to do with her own mom . That’s on her. But you definitely can speak to her about not taking your son. 

Have the three of you been sheltered in place for most of this past week ? It might be that she is not coping with the situation and this is her escape. The logic in her thinking about health and welfare of everyone involved does not make sense. 

She is scared that this is going to be the last time she can see her Mom. Anyways she left already with my son. I called the police and they said take her to court, right? Why not. I assured her that it just may be the last time as she listens to her Mom who has no clue to the potential threat she is putting me in, my family, and Paul, who is a 75 year old man fighting COPD, who she is going to visit. Very sad. Yes Apache, there are many, many layers to this story. There always is. I showed her all of your posts and she still didnt get it. Anyways do your family a favor and dont visit them as the President of the United States of America has already sent the distress signal. Social distance.  

I am so sorry for the distress this is going to be for you. All I can offer is to document and follow what the state of affairs is on every road and highway or city she enters. As someone mentioned above many have issued shelter in place / only essential travel. Document what is going on in the community where she is staying. When she returns home demand she self quarantine for 14 days. If she refuses document that too. I say this only because if the day ever comes you look for sole custody of your son it will all be documented. Stay safe. 

Yeah, not going all out like that crazycatchick. I just needed to show her what people are writing about how they feel about traveling to visit family, especially the elderly family.  

I'm actually fairing very well. It's been a long time since I had any peace and quite at home.